decide. but it was a wise decision, i m not so sure. but it s their right. shannon: so you are now saying that you have gone through and looked at their products and that they absolutely are involved with the industry. explain how that works. there jackets, the jacket they would make, the outer layer is nylon. that is literally made out of oil and gas and petrochemicals. the stuffing that makes it puffy, that is made out of oil and gas. the biggest thing to be said that s cannot be made without oil and gas. north face is not one is their business and industry wouldn t exist without it. shannon: who are saying you went through and the products that they had are primarily involved in some way with your