the u.n.. we won t take any of the talks seriously if they don t do something to ban all nuclear weapons in north korea. we consider this to be a very reckless regime. we don t think we need a band aid. we don t think we need to smile and take a picture. we think we need to have them stop nuclear weapons and they need to stop it now. so north korea can talk with anyone they want. but the u.s. will not recognize it pr acknowledgment knowledge it until they agree to ban the nuclear weapons that they have. joining us now from london, live, nbc news chief global correspondent bill neely. you spent time in north korea and south korea. how easy would it be for kim jong-un to drive a wedge between south korea and america to washington s detriment in this negotiation? reporter: well, i think that is what he s been trying to do and that was in a way the tone of his new year s message, conciliatory towards south korea, aggressive towards the united states, trying to as you