around to it orjust were undecided. it might cue those people along, but it is clear there is a significant number of people who, for whatever reasons, are refusing to have it, and they do have a big problem now, where potentially they leave a big chunk of the staff just almost overnight lose a big chunk. it is a problem of their own making, but i think they hope it would move people on a little, i do not think they ever wanted to become a standoff in this way, and obviously they will be in regular talks with the nhs chief executive and senior figures in the health service, trying to work out how to resolve this problem. watch this space- how to resolve this problem. watch this space. sam, how to resolve this problem. watch this space. sam, take how to resolve this problem. watch this space. sam, take us how to resolve this problem. watch this space. sam, take us onto - how to resolve this problem. watch this space. sam, take us onto the l this space. sam, take us onto the s
it was extremely, um, chaotic situation. the original plan was, when i discussed it with the prime minister on the saturday and sunday was, given he knew what had actually happened, he agreed we should just say nothing about it orjust ignore it. what then happened on the monday is that he suddenly changed his mind and said, we can t stick with the original plan. you re going to have to explain it to people. i said, i m not going into all of the security stuff. and the whole thing just became a huge mess. as an advisor, dominic cummings was meant to stay in the background, but after his spectacular bust up with borisjohnson, that s not something he seems willing to do. laura kuenssberg, bbc news. that interview comes on the day that