and this is certainly a situation that he is going to try and use. so we can t expect that the ukrainian government here in kiev to be putting forward a very strong anti-separatist message. and certainly those recordings are really the tip of that right now, don. all right, nic. richard, i got a little ahead of myself. that question was meant for you and i prefaced it and gave to it nic. what do you make of the conversation we were listening to in washington? it s damning. it shows confusion. it shows misunderstanding. and it shows exactly how this sort of incident happens, if this is accurate, of course, these things happen. the question becomes was this an accident waiting to happen for any aircraft, any airliner flying over that part of ukraine? and there were plenty of them, let me tell you, because although there had been restrictions over crimea, in this part of ukraine, there were no restrictions. but still, the question in there, why were they flying in