coming from this president because there is already a pattern whether it was before he was president, you know, birtherism or whether you re talking about housing discrimination cases. while as president, fredricka. there are so many instances. but there still remain a sort of collective silence about how offensive, outramgous, horrible it is, but then something today may have illicitted something else. i don t know what it is, but can you describe if there is a difference, what is it based on the pattern that we ve seen? i think the difference, at least to me, what really struck me, fred, is that up until now there has been so much pussyfooting around what the president says, what he does. there s still been so many people that are reluctant to call it racism, to call it xenophobia, to call it misogyny,