Katy Tur hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Interest the sdny. It does seem odd that there is no Cooperation Agreement already in place. So when you are on the outside and you are a former prosecutor, it certainly does seem odd. When you are on the inside and there are a lot of moving parts, it doesnt seem odd at all. Thats about the best i can do. Is this more like a pr campaign to alert mueller or alert the sdny that, hey no. Cohen has information . No. Its about a serious set of moving parts before the word Cooperation Agreement is used by either party. But what i have been told to say is that Michael Cohen is going to tell the truth whoever asks him to. The word cooperation as far as we are concerned on that front is irrelevant. What sort of information does he have specifically . What would be of interest to the Special Prosecutor . Again what do i do when im not allowed to tell you what sort of information that he is going to tell katy
you know this better than me, but in government you re supposed to follow those things, because if you don t there is an appearance of improprieties. why did you do that? why did you use a personal cell phone? it isn t a crime to create personal records in terms of the law. it is a crime to destroy those records. so i could see him asking a lawyer, is it a crime for us not to create the record in the first place and saying, well, forget it, we re not doing it. wipe that off we re not going to write anything down for the next seven hours. look, this was a president who didn t have a schedule. during the obama administration, i remember at times i was trying to get an interview with obama and they had to talk like six months out because every five minutes were planned. this is a president who came down to the oval office at 11:00 in the morning when he felt like it, and that s just a small example of the day-to-day
it doesn t, really. it s one thing to pay money out from a campaign to a vendor who then, in turn, subcontracts that out to a foreign vendor. that wouldn t be a violation of campaign finance. it would be what would be, is a foreign person or entity was tod money into a campaign. melissa: are not talking about campaign finance, i m talking about collusion. it s a little difficult to answer the question, because one of the things going on here is that collusion itself is not a legal term. it isn t a crime. i think it collusion, even if you end up proving it, may not actually be a violation of any particular law. it will be something for congress to consider with respect to potential impeachments. as you say that, and you say that they this is what the special counsel was investigating, then by definition they were investigated something that will
meaning above the campaign donation limits, were donated to influence an election as was stated in the document, that is a felony. we have heard republicans in the clinton impeachment say it doesn t have to be a crime for it to be an impeachable offense. i agree with that. but if it is a crime, it certainly is an impeachable offense. and here we have i think for the first time in american history a president of the united states accused by prosecutors of committing a felony. and he doesn t even have the law right by saying, well, it would be dicey if it was campaign contributions, but it isn t a crime. who told you there is a difference between campaign contributions and personal donations with respect to the limits on donations and the disclosure of the donations? so this an historic moment. i don t think the trump white house or mr. trump get it. but this isn t the first time i
interview with fox news and said he only knew about the payments later on. in case the viewers haven t seen it, let s take a look. did you know about the payments? later on i knew. later on. you have to understand, what he did, and they weren t taken out of campaign finance. that s a big thing. that s a much bigger thing. did they come out of the campaign? they didn t come out of the campaign. they came from me. i tweeted about it. i don t know if you know, but i tweeted about the payments. but they didn t come out of the campaign. in fact, my first question when i heard about it was did they come out of the campaign? because that could be a little dicey. and they didn t come out of the campaign. and that s big. but they weren t that s not a it s not even a campaign violation. if you look at president obama, he had a massive campaign violation. but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. earlier today he also said what michael cohen did was n