president obama tried to get america out of two wars that were unpopular, but at the same time, after iraq fell into the hands of isis couldn t let the same thing happen with afghanistan. he s done a little here. it doesn t massively change matters on the ground. it s nothing like the troops they had there at one point, but it certainly alarms critics who says they are leaving afghanistan to extremists as well. nick paton walsh, thank you so much. want to bring in rick francona and investigative reporter david rode, who was held by the taliban for a number of months. also brock macintosh, a a guard veteran who served in afghanistan in 2008. he s now a spokesperson for veterans for rethinking afghanistan and a member of iraq veterans against the war. so thank you so much, all of you, for being with me. brock, thank you so much for your service. let me ask you. you served, you sacrifice d.