with the mexico and they seem to work in san diego. fences work and go ahead with that but combine it with other reforms. we need workers and have worker programs. we did it in the past. we need high-tech people. expand the visas and make sure that people obeying rules get through the system quickly instead of dragging on as the bureaucracy does today. with mexico, why isn t the country growing like india, china and others are growing? give advice to them so people have less incentive to cross the border. put it all together. david: not just the fence but the fence and the other things that steve was talking about. yeah, i agree more with neil that it s comprehensive immigration reform. immigrants are good for the society. look at the state of california and a lot of economics study suggest the great economic growth has been thanks to a growing immigrant workforce and growing immigrant population. we want the immigrants but the problem is they re undocument and they don t pay