this, if possible. friend of the show dan gross is back. dan, we seem to be heading toward a government shutdown over obama care. what is going on? is my mic working? it is. it s not just a san diego thing? well, it may be sort of the last gasp. ufz you have to put yourself in these people s mindsets. they think obama care is the worst thing that could ever happen. god forbid, a lot of people are going to have insurance. once it gets into effect next year when they can t refuse people for pre-existing conditions, when these exchanged start to work, there s no going back. they see this as their last chance. they re grasping at straws. they voted 38, 39 times in the house to repeal. the senate isn t playing ball. it s the way the system operates now is they have to have their tantrum over the debt ceiling. then you make some sort of deal. i think that s what we re going