for good reason, because they were absolutely baseless. and it wreaks of desperation. it seems like they want to silence you. people can understand why. what about the argument that you savaging mr. cohen at times could affect people s opinions of him and thus jurors? well, i don t put a lot of credence into that, ari, because, as you know, when it comes to jury selection, the court can guard against any bias that a juror may come to the court with. and usually does guard against that. you know, it s interesting to me that michael cohen s attorney was arguing so vehemently that i should be gagged and should not be able to speak openly. and look at rudy giuliani s comments last night about michael cohen on chris comeau s show, he called him a pathlogical liar, he s been lying for weeks, a fact finder should not trust him in a trial. those comments were far beyond anything i ve said about michael cohen, why isn t michael cohen s
that s not what corporations are known for, and not what their fiduciary duties provide for. as to michael cohen s assessment, a potential factual assertion that donald trump did okay the trump tower meeting, was that news to you when that news broke last night? no, it was not news to me. nor was it news to me today when they immediately went after or last night and today immediately went after michael cohen and now claim that he s a liar. this is quite a show, ari, that s going to play out in the coming weeks and months. i think on your show it was the first instance back in early may that i said they had put too much faith in michael cohen. anybody could see that. what s so ironic to me is, and you played the clip earlier from the president s former attorney, you know, everyone that knew michael cohen or had anything to do with him knew he wasn t that tough and wasn t that smart. it s amazing this president would trust him with his innermost secrets. it goes to show what a comple
what it is is that trump attracts people like trump. a lot of people that choose to be in his orbit are people who are looking to ride his coat tails of fame. and i think that that becomes paramount for them. that s the overriding issue. i think michael cohen was one of those people. one of the things that trump is notorious for is not paying people. what he tells the people that he does not pay is that just use my name. tell people you did work for me. that s the value. you re alleging that he tells people to say my name? say my name, say my name. say my name, say my name, say my name. that s right. well, you know, we re doing an awkward montage later in the show, but i wanted to have some you wanted to get it out there early. it s live. tara, thank you for bringing your experience and insights here. now i bring in michael avenatti, a rumored iowa visitor. why are you going to iowa? it s not my first visit to
by michael avenatti about all of this. first, how does this battle go down when all of it can involve the trump organization, the history of the apprentice? before that, i bring in tara dardell, a democratic operative. you ve lived many lives. there you are. there i am. when you look at this and cohen s involvement in the trump organization, what do you see as key in this fight. what s key for trump is all about the pr, all about the spin, all about the deny, deflect, attack. as far as cohen is concerned he s going to have to be very careful, because i m not a lawyer like you, but i think we all know when you are under a criminal investigation yourself and you re seeking to be a cooperating witness, the last thing you want to be doing is talking. any good lawyer will tell you to keep your mouth shut. what cohen clear ler wants to do is he wants to go head on at donald trump. he is a man, i ve said this
iowa, i agree up in missouri. i m going to our neighbor to the north. i know people who grew up in missouri but aren t going to iowa. they must not have good taste. well, everyone s interested in your expanding role, your portfolio, your politics. walk us through what happened in court today because your case still continues. well, we had a very good morning in court today, ari, as you know, michael cohen and the president have sought to place a gag order, have the court place a gag order over me and prevent me from coming on shows like this and talking about the case, and talking about the evidence to you and your audience. and it was a very good morning. the judge took it under submission. he hasn t issued a ruling yet. but i d be shocked if he granted the motion. michael cohen and the president s attorneys were almost laughed out of court. the judge was very critical of the motion. and expressed considerable skepticism on the legal arguments they were making, and