and i don t know if you asked this and it got cut, but the question i was waiting to here is when for the first time did you hear about this. now. okay. what does that tell you in. it can tell you a lot of things. as we know from the study of people in this position it s not easy to talk about it. when they do it tells you also there s no corroboration she told her husband, she told her therapist. when? 2012 the husband and the therapist. when kavanaugh s name started to come up for these positions she started to talk to friends about it and whether or not she could do anything she talked to friends. we haven t heard from any of those friends. that s kind of the point. maybe they don t want to talk
supreme court with a 50/50 proposition. it s possible something happened to her and kavanaugh was not there. that is possible. okay. well, then, we should have both of them testify as to that particular why not have everyone you can find that could be relevant testify. why not use the fbi, why not send america a message that we care about these allegations enough, and the judge enough let me ask the senate do everything we can to show you that we cared about what matters. let me ask the senate right now then, through your show, because they re employed by the taxpayers, this is a senate confirmation hearing, the senate has the resources at hand to conduct the investigation that you just suggested. they can do that. you re trying to involve the fbi. yes. because they re objective. all kinds of stall tactics. of course they are. there s all kinds of stall tactics. it took three days with anita hill. what about that it took three days with anita hill.
evidence of any crimes. and it s been going on what two years? yes, so meeting is not enough. it s what they say, it s whether or not it equates to a crime. correct. thank you very assuming we hear from both ford and kavanaugh and no one else, this is the plaguing question. then what do senators do? how do they judge what they hear? how do they decide what the standard is for whether or not judge kavanaugh gets elevated to the supreme court? a closing argument. next. is whoever came up with the term small business , never owned a business. are your hours small? what about your reputation? is that small? owning your own thing is huge.
personally. i appreciate you judging me as a parent, as a member of the media, when we re all bad people. i didn t say that. no, no, no, don t put that in my mouth. i said as everyone preens around about these allegations, don t forget the industry that s been hit the hardest. i don t know how that s relevant in anyway. i really don t. but i have to let you go. have you given all those women i hope you ll have all those women on sometimes who have made credible allegations against people in the media, many of those men are not even any longer in the media about. and i m glad you see that as a good way to reflect on what should be done in this situation here now. no, no, no. i m saying everyone deserves to be heard. 100%. i said that first about her, but judge kavanaugh has been heard and he s willing to be heard again until oath. i understand, i m not taking anything away from that. i think you re handicapping him and trying to rush this through.
kavanaugh pushing for the fbi as well. their efforts could help him as much or more than ford. and how about the president? doesn t he want to remove any doubt before he saddles his pick and the court with the stigma of this kind of ugly speculation? or is he among the new wave of confidence that he s going to be fine, even before they ve heard a word from ford. here to talk about it is kellyanne conway. welcome back to the show. thank you, chris. help us understand this switch. there hasn t been any testimony, and we re hearing more and more republicans, especially on the senate committee saying kavanaugh is going to be fine. we think maybe she s mistaken. how do they know when they haven t heard anything. you just told your audience you wanted to lay out everything you learned. you omitted cleverly a very important fact. judge kavanaugh said he wasn t there. and this is not this is no longer she said he said, it s she said and he said he wasn t