border. if we don t do that, we re a very very sad and foolish lot. mark mckinnon is here to discuss. so mark, what do you think? a real announcement tomorrow? we ll see, you know, i mean part of the problem is that the president has just driven himself into a rhetorical cul-de-sac. when you really break it out and talk about the components of border security that both republicans and democrats are arguing about, they agree really on about 90% of what they re talking about. it s just that the actual notion of a wall, which is where everybody s getting stuck. ultimately, i think and you know, 60% of the country just doesn t like the idea of a wall period. so it s way beyond a majority, and yet, that s what donald trump is clinging to, and i think that s ultimately what he believes he has to have for his base in order to succeed with these negotiations, so that s the the yin and the yang.
that is there s no substitute for that. but a lot of people don t have access, inclination, maybe based on their community and where they are, maybe it is hard for them. i think that s an excuse. maybe. maybe it is. it s a little bit difficult for me to appreciate that because of where i grew up. you know what i mean? but i ve traveled this entire country. i ve traveled the whole world. this country is certainly isolated in certain pockets and in terms of the communities. i get it. but i do think it all matters, don. this isn t just donald john trump and how i think he should behave as a 70-something-year-old man. this is the president of the united states. you re entering martin luther king weekend and you re talking about prayer rugs? you re talking about muslims as part of a brown menace when we re about to celebrate dr. king and his message of inclusion? so i think it all matters. i think you re spot-on about what people can do, and i also think that the accountability remind
out to dinner with someone, you know, going to the park. spending time. going for a run, working out, any sort of having a coff co volunteering with that person, any sort of little thing. otherwise, the empathy means nothing because it s all here. it doesn t mean anything. it s just in your head. oh, my god, i feel so sorry, or i just can t imagine those women and the me too movement. it s just so terrible. well, spend some time with women who have been affected by it or just women in general, listening to what they have to say. stop man-splaining so much. spend some time with your muslim brothers and sisters who feel they re being targeted by this administration, that their misunderstood. that is where the real difference comes from, not from donald trump standing there going, oh, my gosh, i condemn this. he should do that, but it s not going to happen. i think that it all matters. i think there s no replacement for intimacy and experience. obviously if you re with someone and
what the question will be whether or not donald trump can find some semantic way to get out of this. the metaphor has become shackled him into negotiations. the question is can he change that definition. can i ask you a question because you re a strategist, we re coming up on a month, whose shoes would you rather be in, the democrats or the president s? democrats shoes are looking really good right now. the public blames the president for this and really doesn t blame republicans. the vast majority blame the president and ironically the president said he wanted to own the shut down. now he owns it and in a weird trumpian way i think he wanted to go for the record of a shout down. now he s got it. i think what s going to happen is that the very real life consequences, i mean, we ve seen people without paychecks and all that happening, but i think there s going to be like a hockey stick on the consequences on this, a lot of which we can t
when michael cohen pled guilty, he says a couple things. he says, trump directed me to do the hush payments to his former paramours, right? and he says that very specifically. trump directed me. on the lying to congress, he says in one part of his sentencing memo that he was just watching the president s public pronouncements and then catering his testimony to conform to them. but then to really confuse things, in a second part of that sentencing memo, there s a blanket statement that both the hush money and the false statements to congress were at the direction of donald trump. so a lot of people are digging over that tonight, looking at what cohen has previously said and seeing if it is similar to this buzzfeed report. and it is in a way, and it is not in a way. okay. josh, what do you think of the whole situation and what ryan just said? look, we ve been saying