community spirit, and try to encourage people to sort of remain with that. i think with regard to the muslim community, i think we have to stand very strongly alongside them. this isn t in the name of god. this isn t what the muslim of faith ask people to do. this is a complete aberration. this is evil and we need to address the reasons why some people get it into their heads so this is the way to be a good muslim. reporter: we heard from a former met police officers and deputy commissioners today that they believe some of the latest attacks are petty criminals who already went to jail who were radicalized or extremized in prison and use this as an excuse to continue their criminal behavior. what does that say to you? you ve just told me that you presided over the funeral of the heroic policeman who tried to stop the attack on westminster and was killed himself. indeed. that was in march.
operandi of these groups. they had, mohammed al nani the deceived isis spokesperson said in 2014, stab them, drive them over with your vehicles. so this is their modus operandi, whether it s copycat or otherwise. mubin what makes your is that you were at one time an extremist and then you chose to leave. knowing what you know, what is the best route to try to alleviate, to try to fight the terrorism that we re seeing, that is so hard to detect, because there are so many lone wolves? yes, look, london, the uk sustained three decades of i.r.a. bombings, london hasn t fallen and it isn t going to fall. number two, you re right. i used to hold the views some of these guys hold today and it is a deviant interpretation of