using as well. what do you see happening here? and how the president will spin this thing in. number one, we have the problem, we don t know what s in the mueller report. anyone that says they know what s in it, they re wrong. we have some clues from court filings or other people are going to do it. the president is going to spin it whether it s good or bad and the thing is, the only way you can t spin it, if it s so back and mueller comes back and says i have the goods to indict the president. i will not indict the president, because i don t think presidents can be indicted because of previous doj, that s bad. anything that isn t collusion, what the president will do and his campaign will do is say, hey, this is overreach. this was a witch hunt. this is what i have been saying the whole time and, frankly, he s been steady with that drum beat since he started as president of the united states. his base believes it. he does have some help from some
obstructing the collision and again this is where donald trump will say they are trying to ring him up on lies. only guilty people lie in what they are trying to protect is that the president, his family, businesses and campaign sought dirt on hillary clinton from the russians and sought to do a big deal in moscow at the time of the campaign. when they were confronted about it, they lied. where i come from, that s collusion. laura: john. i don t know where he comes from but it isn t collusion. today the president s attorney admitted to lying about a business deal that would ve been perfectly legal, may be stupid but perfectly legal if it went through. he doesn t implicate the president at all. and i think more broadly, people are missing the significance of why this happened today. bob mueller waited in wait to see with the president would say it is answers to see if he could catch him in a perjury trap. the president answered consistent with the evidence, so now he s cleaning up t
obstructing the collision and again this is where donald trump will say they are trying to ring him up on lies. only guilty people lie in what they are trying to protect is that the president, his family, businesses and campaign sought dirt on hillary clinton from the russians and sought to do a big deal in moscow at the time of the campaign. when they were confronted about it, they lied. where i come from, that s collusion. laura: john. i don t know where he comes from but it isn t collusion. today the president s attorney admitted to lying about a business deal that would ve been perfectly legal, may be stupid but perfectly legal if it went through. he doesn t implicate the president at all. and i think more broadly, people are missing the significance of why this happened today. bob mueller waited in wait to see with the president would say it is answers to see if he could catch him in a perjury trap. the president answered consistent with the evidence, so now he s cleaning up t
i find suicide in a lot of instances. i don t think they should. they should be present for the debriefing discussions to make sure things are going okay and that they have a witness to what he has been saying. i understand at least that he has cut off, that he will have a ten-year cap on his sentence and he likely will get far less. he will have light at the end of the tunnel and not be spending the rest of his life in jail. in terms of what president trump is thinking, i don t know. i mean witch hunt seems to be the new word for felon because every time he talks about a witch hunt the mueller team is convicting people and they re being convicted because they re standing up and saying, i m guilty. so i don t think you can really call it a witch hunt anymore. perhaps there is no collusion. one of the things that s going to come out of this is that manafort is going to give his version of what happened in the meeting in trump tower that involved some pretty key people involving russia.
outside of mueller s office here, there are people going in and out of that office, on an daily, hourly basis. we have no idea who they are. people say there is collusion or isn t collusion on the most basic level, there is no way of knowing. we re learning six months later about these meetings with the special counsel is having, who knows the ground they made into the six months since. that s the one thing that sticks out over and over. ambassador, you brought up the hypocrisy or in the role of michael cohen in all of this and what it could mean for the president. rudy giuliani spoke to dana bash, he said he s only concerned about this element of it, if somebody says it involves the president. so far no one has said that. is rudy giuliani right to not be concerned in ter concerned in terms of the exposure for the president. like everything rudy giuliani says, it is wrong. as a matter of law. michael cohen