really seems to be jared kushner. there seems to be a lot of focus and questions about mr. kushner s conduct, his meetings during the transition, and a lot of speculation right now about his fate. so that s really what we re looking for, but back to what donald trump could do about robert mueller, you know, as we know, he can actually fire him, rod rosen stein would have to follow him. we could be looking at a saturday night massacre situation, if trump tried to make that happen, and rosen stein didn t want to do it, and resigned. would he put an acting person. there are some standards in place, and there s a justice department set of rules that say mueller can only be fired for good cause, not just for any reason, brian? good cause is usually a high bar, a high standard, especially among legal types. jill wine-banks, we have noticed that mr. mueller doesn t put out a lot of press releases. in fact, i can t remember the last mueller press release, but
because there wasn t, the attorney general refused to carry out the president s order, so he was fired. and the deputy attorney general said there is no cause, i will not do it, and so he was fired. and then it got down to the third person at the department of justice. the american people cared, and they protested and the president richard nixon had to appoint a second special prosecutor, three days after firing him. that is a lesson we should all keep in mind, if there isn t cause, and so far there is absolutely no cause, then the president should be warned and should learn from history. it was one of those moments where people started thinking, hey, maybe this president nixon fella has something to hide, something to worry about. our thanks to our leadoff panel, including two of the finest kens in washington, based journalism. ken dilanian, and ken vogel, thank you to you too. jill wine-banks as well, for joining us tonight from chicago. coming up for us, steve
that mr. mueller doesn t put out a lot of press releases. in fact, i can t remember the last mueller press release, but if they did, maybe they would say, hey, we had this meeting this week, with the trump legal team and everything went swimmingly. the question for you is, if you go into this meeting with the mueller team, one of these occasional meetings they do have, what s a victory for the trump legal team. what s a good outcome for the trump legal team in terms of a takeaway. the only thing that the trump team can hope to gain is to have a method of giving their opinion, their viewpoint and making it in a persuasive way so that mueller hears and can think about it. on the other hand, by doing that, mueller can start working on what are the answers to those things. i want to go back to your question about cause and good cause for firing. because that was the same rule for firing arch which i cox. there had to be cause.
said there is no cause, i will not do it, and so he was fired. and then it got down to the third person at the department of justice. the american people cared, and they protested and the president richard nixon had to appoint a second special prosecutor, three days after firing him. that is a lesson we should all keep in mind, if there isn t cause, and so far there is absolutely no cause, then the president should be warned and should learn from history. it was one of those moments where people started thinking, hey, maybe this president nixon fella has something to hide, something to worry about. our thanks to our leadoff panel, including two of the finest kens in washington, based journalism. ken dilanian, and ken vogel, thank you to you too. jill wine-banks as well, for joining us tonight from chicago. coming up for us, steve bannon unplugged in vanity fair. why there s an even more intense
and questions about mr. kushner s conduct, his meetings during the transition, and a lot of speculation right now about his fate. so that s really what we re looking for, but back to what donald trump could do about robert mueller, you know, as we know, he can actually fire him, rod rosenstein would have to fire him. we could be looking at a saturday night massacre situation, if trump tried to make that happen and rosenstein didn t want to do it and resigned. it would be the next person up. there are some standards in place, and there s a justice department set of rules that say mueller can only be fired for good cause, for misconduct, for conflict of interest, not just for any reason, brian. good cause is usually a high bar, a high standard, especially among legal types. jill wine-banks, we have noticed that mr. mueller doesn t put out a lot of press releases. in fact, i can t remember the last mueller press release, but if they did, maybe they would say, hey, we had this meeting