was damaged. it s different than we have about the conversation we have here about whether or not this is a national emergency. they need to show someone was hurt. if you think about the lawsuit that was most successful in challenging obama s expansion of daca, that was texas showing that it was hurt by having to pay for the driver s license of immigrants. so sometimes it s not what we would think. it has to be a class. it could be land owners in texas, it could be environmental groups, and it could be states arguing their taxpayers are unfairly burr lly burden by thi may be a place we would not necessarily go to look. so proving someone was hurt but also how much we all seize upon this, how important is it that the president himself said to the american people for everyone to hear i didn t need to do this. i think that is important. if you re going to use that as your reason that it s an emergency, an emergency needs to
finish the wall, finish the wall, finish the wall, finish the wall. [ crowd chanting build that wall ] now, you really mean finish that wall because we ve built a lot of it. and there the branding experience continues. president trump and his political team plan to make his quest for a border wall one of the central theme of his reelection effort. the president s recent national emergency declaration has, quote, galvanized many of his supporters, even as others on the right remain dubious and disappointed. you say he s essentially trying to speak the wall into existence. i would agree with that.
be handled now. he is using his power inappropriately. i think the expediency doesn t help his argument. that could be a two-year process if he goes to the supreme court. arguably he could have gotten that through faster if he had gone through congress. what s going to happen when the democrats win the white house? this what conservatives are telling me on capitol hill. they say climate change is a national emergency and we re going to declare an emergency on climate change. what s the republican argument at that point? julia? anybody have it? i don t think there s anything they can say. tom? i think the republicans are entirely in a short-term game. they don t care about what happens two years from now. i think they re in complete survival mode. julie, for the white house staff, is there any sense when
schools don t need the money. we ll deal with them later, he said. lindsey graham said kentucky schools don t need the money, we need to use that money for an image nary crisis to build a wall, to take care of an emergency that he didn t need to take care of, when we actually have immigration rates at a 50-year low. tom, what were you doing in 1971? i m just curious. i was actually arguing with my buddies who were blowing their money on zeplin albums. but i was 10. you were 10 years old? yes, i was. 1971. that was the last time i think that border crossings were higher than they are or lower than they are. my school in massachusetts was deeply fortified against the waves of immigrants that were making their way to the connecticut valley. exactly.
don t worry about the kids in middle school, it s better that we don t worry about the kids in middle school and we spend money on this, quote, national emergency because donald trump said it was a national emergency, even though i said we didn t need to spend the money a year ago when republicans were actually in charge and had the money and the power and the authority to give donald trump whatever he wanted. now he s throwing kids under the bus saying they re not as important as his, quote, national emergency. and saying things as though things like videotape don t exist anymore. that s the part that kills me is that all these things are these 180s are all said as though there s no internet, there s no videotape, there s no recordings. it just didn t happen. we sort of just kind of wave it away and say, you know, let s start again because the president said this. and i think, again, that the republican party has become a cult of personality. if the president said it, that s