later this morning the speaker will have a chance to confront the president directly, she goes to the white house for talks on infrastructure. there is also growing uncertainty about whether special counsel robert mueller will, in fact, testify in public. this as lawmakers we know will be getting the chance just about an hour from now to grill treasury secretary steve mnuchin today about the irs s refusal to hand over president trump s tax returns. and this comes as the washington post has now uncovered a confidential irs draft memo that directly contradicts the administration s reasons for not complying. joining us now is the number three house democrat, the majority whip, james clyburn. congressman, thank you very much for being with us this morning. as the whip it is your job to count votes inside the democratic caucus. i want to know from you, we see two dozen or so house democrats now publicly calling for impeachment, how many democrats in your caucus do you think would supp
i appreciate and i respect both sides of the science. is that how science works? to be continued. a lot more to come tonight on kasie dc, we ll talk about how the muller report could spill over in the race. plus, some misgivings about the bernie sanders bid for the nomination, specifically, he s not a democrat and watching the sunday shows, so you don t have to. have to staying at hampton for a work trip.
democrat if he wants to be a democrat. i don t want somebody who has been dedicated and focused on the party, i think that s the appropriate thing to do and invest in the party. if you re going to be the party s nominee. i use as an example for example, michael bloomberg, who was an independent. right. he s thinking about running for president and what he decided to do was reregister as a democrat to run in the democratic primary. that s the appropriate thing to do. do you think bernie sanders understands the fundamental concerns of african-american voters? clearly, the last time he did not and why he did not get the vote he thought he would get. ultimately, i think what we need to do maybe we need a new face on the scene. maybe we need to look at that now, opposed to the candidates that ran previously. we have another set of candidates that s running now and maybe that s what we need to
around who our friends and who are not. and i think there s been a real failure to do that and that s a real subject of concern for me and it should be for all of us. and my thanks to senator kamala harris. of course, 2020 democratic presidential candidate. susan, where do you see senator harris in this field? she s sort of taking a quick leap into i m not going to go so far as to say front-runner sattous considering the state of play at the moment with so many people involved but taking note as a member of the top tier, but she has run into a couple tough questions about jussie smollett and some other issues. she did not seem to answer the question about what was the difference between a democrat and democratic socialist there, which i think will be a main attack from the president of the united states. yeah, she didn t answer a lot of questions. and that s where she now has to kind of bring it. she did a great rollout. she raised some money. she is in the top tier. i look at it
able to obviate some of the fiscal claim that s could be made about this administration. how long do you think the candidates can keep the gloves off the others in the democratic field? that was one thing, kamala harris declined a very easy opportunity to criticize bernie sanders, who had announced his run on the day we did the interview. i think bernie sanders is an interesting outlier. he has a massive popular following. so i think if they re going to start throwing punches, the last place they will start is bernie sanders. it will come. we will get to the debates sooner than anyone in america realizes. i do want to come about to kamala harris. i think kamala harris is not who donald trump wants to face. i think one of the reasons donald trump was beaten by hillary clinton in the electoral college, a lot of african-american voters didn t come out to vote in 2016. i think she can do better there and i think she s someone who can balance what the democrat are saying to appeal to