is since there is is not a it twi not a twitter account, we re not having to report on it. this lie persists and it persists in some ways in a stronger and more robust way in very specific siloes of our political life. jim, i just want to add to that. it highlights how much we re not having a debate about politics anymore at the outer reaches. this isn t a debate about policy or different approaches to solving the same problem. this is about reality. this is the result of evidence that people have bought into because they need to save face. it s important we don t mix this with the political debate, they re not mixed when it comes to reality. i think you could agree this is the fringe. the outer reaches have always been fringe. you have the 40s and the
war. tim, thank you very, very much for coming to the sunday show. i mean, this is white fragility this bill and the purpose is white fragility personified, is it not? right. i mean, these are the people who say white fragility is a made-up concept, and yet they democrat demonstrate it, every time they open their mouths. this isn t a debate about history. how we remember the past and how we teach it and talk about it affects how we understand the present and how we shape the future. so when they want to get rid of certain textbooks that talk about systemic racism in history, when they want to purge that very term from the curriculum of schools, the reason they re doing that is that if you get rid of a systemic analysis that says our current in equities stem from the inertia of hundreds of years of unequal access and opportunity, what are you left with? you re left with an analysis that says, well, the problem really is black people.
9/11. and you know what this has meant to be in the united states. what you seem to be saying is that to a large extent the us mission over the last 20 years is revealed as a mirage. over the last 20 years is revealed as a mirage- as a mirage. i m afraid these are the sorts of as a mirage. i m afraid these are the sorts of debates as a mirage. i m afraid these are the sorts of debates that - as a mirage. i m afraid these are the sorts of debates that have i the sorts of debates that have happened elsewhere around the world, and britain worked so hard, fought so hard, lost so many people in helmand province in afghanistan and decided a few years ago sort of like what president biden has decided this year the effort was not worth sustaining at that same kind of level and intensity. this isn t a debate unique to the united states. the issues are palpable, and they are clearly before us. but i also think there was a good case to keep doing what we were doing, 12,000 total nato troops w
attack against himself. claiming two trump supporters assaulted him on a chicago street. washington post global opinion editor said regarding the heinous attack on jussie smollett, the climate of hate means lives have been at stake since 2015. what just happened to jussie smollett is a hate crime. it s absurd. this isn t a debate. howie: when smollett was charged with an outrageous hoax, his supporters were resnraind their remarks. if jussie s story isn t true, he squandered the goodwill of a whole lot of people. he even lied to a lot of people
charged with staging a raition attack against himself. claiming two trump supporters assaulted him on a chicago street. washington post global opinion editor said regarding the heinous attack on jussie smollett, the climate of hate means lives have been at stake since 2015. what just happened to jussie smollett is a hate crime. it s absurd. this isn t a debate. howie: when smollett was charged with an outrageous hoax, his supporters were resnraind their remarks. if jussie s story isn t true, he squandered the goodwill of a whole lot of people. he even lied to a lot of people