i.t. department, but even the pentagon, they get so many hits every single day. people trying to get into the pentagon. so no one is really immune. deb feyerick, thank you. want to update you on the bus crash we were telling you about on northbound i-95 north of richmond. cnn has confirmed four people dead in that crash and multiple injuries. this is it s at the 103 mile markers on interstate 95 north of rich pond. here s what we know, it is a commercial tour bus. apparently went right off the side of the road, overturned and came to a rest upside down. police are still on the scene right now. but because it s heavily forested between the northbound and southbound lanes there s no rubber necking because people on the southbound lanes can t see what s going on. northbound i-95, still closures there. they re closed off while virginia state mistake a look at this thing. four people confirmed dead and multiple injuries in a tour bus crash on i-95 north of richmond. america s hidden
capital. meantime a large bus, iconic american backdrops and hundreds of passionate supporters at every stop on her tour, has the trappings of a presidential campaign, but palin insists that s not what it is. this isn t a campaign bus. this is a bus to be able to express to america how much we appreciate our foundation and to invite more people to be interested in all that is good about america. joining us now to talk about palin s tour is jim, he s a conservative writer and contributor for the national review and national review on-line. thanks for being with us. always enjoy it. this is not a definite run for president for sarah palin, what is it? that s a good question. i get the feeling this is sarah palin wanted to come out and run she would come out and run. she doesn t seem the person to do the hokie po kishgs one foot in the race, one not in the race. the new york times is calling it a donor financed family vacation. a little understatement. clearly when she ann
i m here in gettysburg tonight in part because sarah palin was expected to make a stop here on her bus tour, which started out today in the nation s capital. now, she is here in town, but she s yet to turn up here at the battlefield. then there s the question of what kind of stop. she said today she s still contemplating a presidential run. so is it a campaign stop? who knows? miss palin s not even saying that s a campaign bus she s driving. it certainly looks like a campaign bus. if you re not running for president, why the tour? this isn t a campaign bus. this is a bus to be able to express to america how much we appreciate our foundation and to invite more people to be interested in all that is good about america and to remind ourselves we don t need to fundamentally transform america, we need to restore what s good about america. you can start by doing that right in here. i m glad you guys are here. now, the non-campaign bus
end it is going to come down to that? it will be mitt romney versus someone seen as more conservative both socially and fiscally? well, i m not sure it will be someone socially and fiscally more conservative, but i do think one person will emerge as the anti-mitt, as the alternative. it thmay be two. we can t tell iowa, new hampshire, and florida and the like. clearly because the sarah palin we re watching mitt romney, i m not sure he could get 200 people to come out there and stand and wait, not knowing if he s even going to come at this point. we could with a couple of victories. but i do think that she sort of the excitement surrounding her, the fact that we re talking about it, i think in some ways underscores the fact there isn t an enormous sense of excitement about romney or pawlenty or
what s in there and appreciate america s foundation. our charters of liberty. reporter: it looks like a campaign bus. reporter: if you are not running for president why the tour. this isn t a campaign bus. this is to express to america how much we appreciate our foundation and to remind ourselves we don t need 0 fundamentally transform america, we need to restore what s good about america. you can start that right here. jamie: sarah palin says it is not a campaign bus, it s a tour bus. she is taking the kids on their summer trip and they are going to all of the nation s monuments, including the national archives to be in touch with the foundation of america. she ll be asked that question every day of that tour. john: when is a campaign bus not a campaign bus? jim were i think when you put