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MSNBC Alex Witt Reports June 4, 2024 16:41:00

from all over the world come to manhattan, they know how to do this. so, all they re just preparing for it, and they are determining how to do, it went to do it. they can easily get him in and out, safely. but they also know, he is going to create havoc, frankly, he is going to perp walk him self. he s gonna be the one to put on a show and insights he wants. it he said that he wants to be seen in handcuffs, yes. exactly. so, law enforcement knows what that will do. some nations have to prepare. given your position as a top aide to former manhattan da, cy vance, who started this investigation rather later, put it on hold. why did he do that? look, you know, he put this case on hold, partly because, he had multiple investigations going into donald trump. don t forget, under cy vance, he indicted the trump

MSNBC Alex Witt Reports June 4, 2024 16:28:00

can i ask you quickly about trump s lawyer in mar-a-lago documents case, evan corcoran, who has you know, testified before a grand jury after the judge ruled on the so-called crime fraud exception. i guess it means he could not assert attorney client privilege. that s pretty extraordinary. do we know what the judge saw? could there be any sort of a national security concern that led to this? well, that s a great question. we don t know at this point, what the judge saw. those arguments are under seal. there are two broad things that could be at play here. one, the attorney, might be participating with the former president in the context of some sort of criminal activity. the other side, might be that the attorney, evan corcoran, did not engage in any criminal behavior, that perhaps, he was lied to her misled by the former president. and that he used those misrepresentations in the course of what he was saying in that case. we don t know what was said. what is striking about his

MSNBC Alex Witt Reports June 4, 2024 16:39:00

that it s a call to action for donald trump. so, what s happening, law enforcement is working together to decide when is the safest time to ask the grand jury to indict this case, in my thought is, the safest time would be the closest in time to what he s going to surrender. so, they are all working together on what a good day would be, i think that s gonna be next week. they re also considering whether or not to put any other witnesses any rebuttal witnesses. trump s witness, mr. costello, testified. so, they might want to rebut something he said. the third thing, i think they re considering, whether or not to bring additional charges against donald trump. based on his rhetoric that has happened this week, where like i said, put a baseball bat to alvin bragg s head and called for death and destruction, to me, that crosses the line from speech to conduct. and is absolutely a crime under the new york penal law, whether

MSNBC Alex Witt Reports June 4, 2024 16:42:00

organization, he also had another case involving the valuation of assets. he had this case, at one point, cy vance went to the supreme court of the united states to get donald trump s tax returns. there are multiple cases going on at once. so, he handed all three over to alvin bragg when alvin bragg took office a year ago and a half ago. and he tried the trump organization and got the conviction. he had two other cases that are still pending. this one s going now because the statute of limitations runs in may. so, it s now or never for this case. make no mistake, for those people who are saying, why isn t the case going first? this isn t a serious case. this is a very serious case. this is the first time he tried to influence an election. the second time was january 6th. this is the first time we try to influence the presidential election. when he tried, two weeks before the election, to hide these payments. the other reason this is a really serious crime, let s not

MSNBC Alex Witt Reports June 4, 2024 16:43:00

forget, these payments were made while he was sitting in the oval office as president. where he was lying in a business record, saying that this was illegal retainer, when it was in fact not illegal retainer. this was a payment to hush money payment. you had a president of the united states committing crimes, 11 different times, from the oval office. how can anyone say that is not serious. so, this is a very important case to bring, and i applaud alvin bragg for doing this. hopefully, they will also bring these additional charges against him. what he s doing right now, threatening a prosecutor, and threatening violence and calling for death and destruction, is irresponsible and criminal. well, karen friedman, please come see me again. i very much appreciate your insight, in this conversation. have a good saturday. appreciate you. thank you. so many questions after what the republicans did this week, specifically yesterday. the parents bill of rights passed in the house, should a

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