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Transcripts For MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240707

republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gates and mr. brooks mr. gates was the first to ask for a pardon. [inaudible] i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought that it was [inaudible] how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace with [inaudible] jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. stephanie ruhle, all here for our special primetime recap of the fifth day of the january 6th hearings. good evening from msnbc headquarters, i m rachel. i am joined here by my beloved colleagues lawrence o donnell, nicole wallace, joy reid, ari melber. and if that s

Transcripts For MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240707

adamant that he had one and that we were not doing our job. the president said, just say the election is corrupt and leave the rest to me and well. republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gaetz and mr. brooks mr. gaetz was the first to ask for a pardon. mr. biggs did, mr. gohmert asked as well. i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought the puzzle was asinine. how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. but so baloney said this is a murder suicide pact. tonight rachel maddow, nic

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 01:10:00

because if any of them had been pardoned, they could turn around the next day and the asked to testify against trump, and if they were, they can t plead the fifth, which jeffrey clark did 105 times. so, did former president trump not pardon them because it would hurt him? that s the question i have. and given that he pardoned roger stone and steve bannon and others, the self-interest seems to be a big issue here michael flynn, putin, making things better for paul manafort. but this would touch him, this would hurt him. all this talk about blanket pardons, this isn t bed, bath and beyond. you can t just say you get a pardon for everyone of our all-time, and wrap yourself in it. the nixon example is interesting, that the former lawyer for the white house mention. because you have to write it down. you point, if you start writing down what s your pardoning, obstructing of a proceeding, a plan inside the government to do selective prosecution, as we were discussing earlier, to abus

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 05:38:00

overthrow of the election is just alarming. the pardon power is under the department of justice, which i found it so fitting to be part of today s hearing. theoretically, you are supposed to go through a pardon attorney. there is a whole opportunity to write out a brief, to write out evidence, and so on. they skipped over all of that and they went right to their friends in the white house. congressman raskin, it s nicole wallace, thank you for taking some time to talk to us. someone we all talk to for advice on legal matters, barbara mcquade, just positive did that there may be perhaps more questions at this hour than questions around whether there is any correlation between the committee s decision to move last wednesday s doj day today, and the early morning raid of jeffrey clark s search of jeffrey clark s home. were there any connections between doj and anyone on the committee about the schedule? i don t know anything about that. i am on the committee that is only investiga

Transcripts for MSNBC The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates 20240604 01:38:00

indication of guilt or at least fear of prosecution. and the fact that there were so many republican members who weren t involved in extra parliamentary action in order to secure donald trump s overthrow of the election is just alarming. the pardon power is under the apartment of justice, which is why i found it so fitting to be part of today s hearing. theoretically, you are supposed to go through a pardon attorney. there is a whole opportunity to write out a brief, to write out evidence, and so on. they skipped over all of that and they went right to their friends in the white house. congressman raskin, it s nicole wallace, thank you for taking some time to talk to us. someone we all talk to for advice on legal matters, barbara mcquade, just positive that there may be perhaps more questions at this hour than questions around whether there is any correlation between the committee s decision to move last wednesday s doj day today, and the early morning raid of

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