this only really becomes real when he actually says it. it ties in, bill, with some of the names we keep hearing being floated, like frank gaffney, who is obviously very controversial, and a lot of muslims think he is an islamophobe. we re told he is part of the transition team and then we re told he s not. i believe he s not. i believe some of his friends thought he should be. he was a friend of trump. generally speaking, if you look at this transition, both in the names that are being seriously considered and the policies being floated, they are less extreme than donald trump talked about in the campaign. that s certainly true of the travel issue. going back to the bush/obama policy from 2002 to 2011 that s not radical change. might be a good idea. might be a bad idea. nikki haley as a possible secretary of state. meeting with mitt romney this weekend. i think they re within the limits of trump and trump world, which is still somewhat
mr. trump talks about a muslim ban, he took it off his website for a time but now it s back on. so they say that is extreme, that s singling a group of people out because of their religion and not allowing them in the united states because of that, and that s quintessentially un-american. what do you think about that? what i know that we have today is a very real and serious threat by extremist muslims and this is a reality that we haven t confronted directly for the sake of political correctness and if people would hear out the concerns and fears that others have about the issues to refugees and extremists, i think we could find a path that s in the middle. but unfortunately, what happens is that this liberal honor brigade shuts down all conversation, calls you bigot or racist or islamophobe if you dare to speak your own concerns. i know that the solution for our
seem to be muslims. reporter: joyce has been on talk radio in south florida for more than 0 years. a hot topic these days as a man who is the regional director of cair, always sheriff s deputy of produce arrested broward county. joyce wants him gone from the police department because he wasn t properly vetted. i ve been called racist, moron, one trick pony. and i refuse to bow down. reporter: are you an islamophobe? not at all. reporter: a spokesperson for the sheriff s department told me he s been with the department since 2011, a full-time deputity since 2014. the department considers him an excellent deputy and loyal american. he travels the state speaking out against extremism and trains muslims in mosques how to escape
experts, constitutional scholars say you would not be able to do this. security experts say this wouldn t be beneficial. it would further alienate us further from leaders of the muslim-american communities. this puts a further separation and like you said, chris and alisyn, it does not differentiate between radical islamic terrorists and muslims at large. it s pretty clear donald trump looks at this as a shrewd play to try to win over conservative voters which is particularly potent at a time when, yes, our cnn/orc poll shows trump leading in iowa. another monmouth poll shows trump losing in iowa. some of this was based on a poll that donald trump cited, some experts say this is a widely flawed poll, by the center for security policy by someone who has been classified as an islam-ophobe.
gender apartheid is one manifestation of that. islamist anti-semitism is another very threatening. and making anything other including myself or other members who are participating in this important piece, because we are nonislamists we are also this is absolutely anathema to what i understand to be islam. even in doing this special people will say the whole thing, even discussing this is somehow islamophobic. it s like you cannot discuss the islamist faction of islam without being accused of islamophobia. you re absolutely right, megyn, and you ve led the decision on discussion on the kelly file. we spoke about the documentary i participated with ayaan and i have been accused not just in media but also in person at rutgers university of being an islamophobe for raising this.