i share that concern. you have to take a healthy dose of skepticism here. remember for our audience to recall this, he never shut his border between turkey and syria. the iraqis, several hundred when they went in to northeast and syria. they grew to 30,000. largely international fighters from the region. they all came through the syrian border. he kept that border open even though he told us he shut it down. he permitted isis to grow, why? he thought they would go west and attacked the assad regime. what they did is they moved east and established a caliphate. huge strategic blunder on the part of erdogan so we have to be skeptical about him. i don t trust them, to be frank, and unassuming members of our administration are moving very cautiously in dealing with him. shannon: a critical meeting tomorrow so we will see what comes from that. in the meantime, thank you very