group but a head of a movement where he s identified as the isis guy. who can lead the movement? i don t see anyone who can yet. as we wake up this morning the questions are, what lessons can be learned from this operation and what do we know from the u.s. position in syria? the new york times, bianna this morning, talking to military officials, they say al bal baghdadi s death occurred largely in spite of mr. trump s action, is that fair and important? it appears fair. we were able to locate with cooperation with other regional allies on the ground and also through investigative work through our intelligence community. you see the fruits of working with others of having coalitions. this was supposedly in the works
go through all united states government agency and be united states policy from now on. dana: senator graham, we obviously need something like this. we were just talking about this woman that left alabama. she goes to syria. she marries an isis guy. now she wants to come back. in your report, do you think that there are ways that we could have prevented her from being radicalized and going there? number one, they recruit on the internet. the narrative they re selling is a false narrative. attack the narrative. attack the under lying premise. but the point is, $5.9 trillion later, we ve spent that much since 9/11. there are more terrorists today than there were on september 11th. the military s done a great job of taking down terrorist networks. we ve done a good job, great job protecting the homeland. but we ve done a poor job of getting to the root cause of the problem. so if you want to stop fighting an endless war, prevent it before it starts.
focus here is knives. again, they are missing the larger point which is why is it happening to begin with? why are people choosing to take this kind of assaultive conduct towards others? jesse: i thought it was an onion headline when i first read it. i didn t believe it. we joked about this when there was that mall slasher, the isis guy. then some bad guys stabbed some person and you say oh, what are we going to do next, ban knives? everybody laughs on twitter but this is real. this is not a joke. khan is like the de blasio of london. he keeps getting worse for him. it has turned into a joke. if something happens, it s bad. you don t disarm everybody. if you can t have a gun to protect yourself in london, maybe you need a knife. people sometimes protect themselves. what if you are just carrying your knives to the kitchen, to the restaurant, and you work in the kitchen where you work
its nature involves making trying to advance political ends, which the isis guy was doing. this one was not. he was doing it on facebook according to his friend. what? he was making anti-religious and doing political and gun posts. okay. on his facebook page. we re going to learn more as time goes on. this seems look a guy who is crazy with domestic violence. and domestic violence is an area where many of us who he terror iced a church and killed 26 people. how is that not terrorism? why won t the administration. don, if you just want to say killing a lot of people is terrorism, okay, then it is, but a mass killing makes is a better description if we re trying to talk about policy. terrorism has a meaning and it is to advance a political agenda through violence. and i see this more as a domestic violence. i want to get representative
sure. look, it is noteworthy. folks i talked to in the military said the same thing. they are paying attention to this. four in four days, that got their attention. but that s what russians want. this is about getting attention. about flexing muscles. showing hey, we re here. and it might be in fact a signal that they are just trying to show their discontent with syrian strikes and with what is going on with the group moving up towards korean peninsula. i want to go through other issues. the u.s. now has succeeded we re told u.s. combat troops on the ground, boots on the ground and in killing an associate, al-baghdadi, how significant is this? this is an iceberg story. we are seeing 10% of it. it wasn t just an isis guy. it was an individual at the top of the chain on external operations. that s places like north american western europe. that is pure gold for an intelligence organization.