esteban santiago. and people have been reading into his finger and that. art what does this say to you if anything? could be some peripheral involvement here with terrorist group. it s hard to say right now. but definitely iekological issues. and psychological issues and terrorist acts not mutually exclusive. we tend to put something in a particular bucket to label it. this is this. but one is not mutually exclusive of the other. i think we ll find terrorism was peripheral issue but this individual this psychological issues. we tend to think of isis directed, something like paris, isis planned or inspired attacked like people inspired online or told to do something. and then there s third category. we don t know if we re there
to be in some way unislamic. i thiake the claim of responsibility at face value, the kurdish terrorists don t attack nightclubs where there are many civilians including turks. so the choice of target and isis claiming responsibility mean that it is slightly, if not isis directed, at least isis inspired. there have been so many terrorist attacks within turkey in the past several months, phil. isis has claimed responsibility. other terror groups have claimed responsibility. other rebel groups have claimed responsibility. what is happening inside turkey? i think there s a couple things happening. on the ground what you re seeing isis do over the course of time is to accept that kisis would conduct add tacks without claiming them. there s a war between the two because of turkey s air operations, ground operations
latest information? well, it all fits in with i think what most people s expectations were given that a lot of the tactics, techniques, procedures that we see in this attack mimic a couple of other ones. in fact, there have now been three attacks the islamic state has claimed credit for using its channels, propaganda channels online, involving vehicles. just given the initial reports on this, it certainly seems to be a jihadist attack, probably isis inspired, if not isis directed, and so this is all fitting in with what expectations were, i think. and now it s just a question of how quickly they can get the perpetrator and also, there s always the possibility of not just following attacks from the one individual who is guilty of this mass casualty event but also perhaps associates of his, sometimes they will be accelerated attack plans because they are afraid they may be caught because of their association with the individual that s now part of this massive nationwide man hunt. so th
doing more, we should be helping. yes, we should have five years ago whenever the civil war started in syria. we should have never withdrawn our troops so quickly out of iraq which led to isis taking over. what s really important, i think, about this attack in germany. isis inspired, is this radical or isis directed? if it s isis directed, that means the gains we tried to make in iraq in syria against them are not as significant as we thought. the thing is, they were giving three, four years to plot and plan. they ve provided the since separati inspiration. we ve let them go into iraq. took our troops out of iraq. we really did nothing except for iraq help fight isis while they took root and exploited their own capital and country. we wonder if we should have more
of new jersey, a former chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. senator, thank you very much for joining us. i want to get to all of these issues. very quickly, the fbi is saying that they are missing 18 minutes of the terrorist movements in san bernardino. they are working on the assumption that this was isis-inspired, not isis-directed. what are you hearing? i don t know much more, wolf, than what you ve reported. they are trying to figure out what those 18 minutes represent in terms of movements. and i believe that in time they will, with the help of the community at large, hopefully plug in that time. the real question for me has always been, is this isis-inspired or isis-directed and it seems at this point they are moving in the direction of isis-inspired. isis-directed would have been a game changer. still, a dangerous set of circumstances with lone wolf activities here in the united states and abroad. and they are trying to figure