Ukraine they do not necessarily see eye to eye with germanys goal here to plan talk to one of the key players when it comes to trying to solve and reduce tension in the middle east so they have a good personal working relationship if youve worked spilled out some of the things where they dont see eye to eye will some of those issues also be discussed in this meeting today ahead of the meeting today the spokespeople both in moscow and in berlin clearly stated a long list of topics that were going to be discussing back here in germany they played down a bit the importance of the issue saying that its not a state visit but a working visit and they would be discussing everything from the crisis in ukraine to libya to bilateral issues and when they talk about bilateral issues the 1st thing that comes to mind is a nordstrom to pipe that does not forget that germany and russia have very important commercial economic ties that Something Else is going to be discussed but obviously given current