The final analysis is not only work history as but also where it begins in trying to understand the war in the ukraine and what it means for the rest of the world. How far down memory lane should we go . Well, to just come to them now join, ply, we ask peo, researcher for the South African chapter of the southern and east african trade institute. This is a evans agreed to talk to you. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you for having me as well do just fine. Yes, great pleasure. Talking to you and i think from reading some of your recent articles, we share a similar space for neo con politics. You know, the intention of launching wars and the name of all the good against all the bad and sometimes, or most of the times living scorching land in the aftermath. But for some reason the scenario seems to be happening over and over again. I covered the wars and libya or in syria just a couple of years ago. And nowadays everybody forgot about it. It seems that the only one that exists in