our identity. i think that to guns, for some people, and i want to try to really lightly here, i think guns have become a brand. not that like of pride, a cultural pride. it s not the gun. it s the, this is mine. this is mine. it s not just guns, right? you can take many things that people will say. this is mine. you re not taking this from me, and i think that when we had these moments when technology is changing, and the is changing. people gets confused, and they cling to things. it s just something that we re going to have to work through in the country. i think it s something we re missing in the conversation, and the greater conversation of social media, is nuance, right? it s all become this, i m on the scene, they re on this team. we re just going to fight in the middle, and go back to our team, regardless of who. joe is right. people who don t say nuance, or
sworn into office in january 2019. at the time, she was the youngest woman, and the youngest latina to ever serve in congress. and her years on the hill, she s become a progressive voice that people look to for guidance and reaction when things unfold both in the capital and across the country. i ve got to chatting with her recently but how she s made accountability a key part of her mission as an elected official. here s a part of the conversation. so you re in the minority of congress for the first time since we were elected. it seems like you re kind of having fun beat a bit of an agitator. are you enjoying that role? i think whole day in those empower accountable is the fundamental part of our role. it s a part of a role that are drawn from my history and advocacy in organization activism. it s also one that we can propose solutions while we re also hold people accountable for the decisions that they re making.
doubt of the worst crime and he must be prosecuted under the rule of law, or he is the subject of a witch hunt and there s no guilt at all. you don t hear nuance. and what s missing is nuance. today walter caron cite couldn t get a job in the media because he didn t pick sides. [laughter] ask that s what we ring asking and that s what we re having in the media today. it s red sox versus yankees. when i used to be a red sox fan, i would still stand up and cheer when jeter came in. i understood a great player. today that s not the case. if i stand up and say, look, i don t vote for trump, i don t like his politics but i think he was targeted, i m hated by both sides because i didn t pick a side. howard: yeah. i ve got about a minute left, alan, do you see an emerging legal strategy to delay this case with all kinds of appeals and is motions until after the 2024 election? it won t be a problem to delay it until after the
limiting the governor newsoms and other blue state governors who want to have abortion on demand, which is out of step with this country. which is why i think lindsey graham and his proposal is a very viable proposal. so, we ll see what that works out. what the pro-life community is not interested in, abby, is nuance, let s make a deal, we re not sure where we re going to land, blaming pro-lifers for the midterm losses versus the midterm wins. we want a presidential candidate that offers clarity from the sanctity of life. and i think we have several in this field that will do that. what you re describing there, the let s make a deal language. former president trump used that language in the cnn town hall. is that what you re referring to there? it is. i watched kaitlan collins, and i saw the president s answer. i thought it was very nuanced. we re thrilled he gave us three supreme court justices that overturned roe v. wade, but we have cause for pause when he
say, i am for a national abortion ban? well, right now we are in a different world after the overturn of roe v. wade. there s lite of us wrestling with issues. i do believe the federal government has a role on limiting the governor newsoms and other blue state governors who want to have abortion on demand, which is out of step with this country. which is why i think lindsey graham and his proposal is a very viable proposal. so, we ll see what that works out. what the pro-life community is not interested in, abby, is nuance, let s make a deal, we re not sure where we re going to land, blaming pro-lifers for the midterm losses versus the midterm wins. we want a presidential candidate that offers clarity from the sanctity of life. and i think we have several in this field that will do that. what you re describing there,