not been the charm for kevin mccarthy. you see the tally on the screen. we are waiting any minute for this vote to officially be closed, and then the question is what happens next? do they try for time number six? where unless something has dramatically changed and we don t think it has, mccarthy will probably lose again. do they try to take a break? what are the concessions that are happening behind the scenes? we have the best team in the biz, here to answer the questions to the best of their abilities including capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and political director and moderator of meet the press, chuck todd, nbc news colleague, and steve kornacki is posted at the big board and former chief communications adviser to former speaker paul ryan and msnbc political analyst brendan buck is with us, too. if you re looking at this saying, okay, i ve been watching this coverage for six hours. what has changed? what is different? what is going to change the moment? here is w
before, zoe lofgren leading that second hearing and pete auilar talking about the pressure campaign on mike pence. this will focus on the pressure campaign at the state level. they re going to use, as you mentioned, lawmakers from georgia to make that point. of course, that s one of the key states that we know that former president trump was pressuring election officials to overturn the election results or at least, in his words, find the overrule 11,000 votes that he would need in order to win georgia, which he actually lost. they re also likely to delve deeper into the idea of fake slates of electors. that s something that john eastman was pressuring former vice president mike pence on. we heard about that last week. but now we may hear a little bit more about the plots at the state level beyond just georgia that the white house and his allies were using at the time to try to find any way to keep the former president in power. and vaughan, former vice president mike pence
Scalise . Who do you think might have the votes to lead your party and the house . All three of those would be Excellent Choices and i think they can do an excellent job. Theyre honorable men, to me at least, and theyve never openly mocked me, anyway. They sure as heck have always kept their word to me. Theres several others that have whispered in my ear during all of this. And of course i dont want to out them, i understand that they have to keep their secrecy about them. But there are several Milling Around that are very interested in doing this. Mark green from tennessee is somebody that people have been talking about. So theres several out there that people are talking about. Im sorry, but i just find this so shocking. What exactly did he say to mock your faith, sir . It really doesnt matter. It was just the fact that i publicly stated on your station, i think, this morning that i was praying about it and i had two paths to go, either go with my friend or go with my conscious, and
in these court cases, they should have no limit to be able to charge whatever they want, and that is exactly why americans support american drug association by 80%. reporter: so you can hear there, the white house certainly seems confident in the legality of this program and the firm legal ground upon which they are standing here, but it is, nonetheless, an open question over these next couple of years. will any of these lawsuits derail the program, and will republican lawmakers that have sought to repeal the inflation reduction act, this is a key provision of that law. will they, perhaps, derail this program, but the white house points out, this is a program, a medicare drug produce negotiation that is deeply popular with the american public, and they believe that it will stand. and seniors who both parties rely on, it would be very hard for them to see their drug prices drop, and then have someone increase them. certainly something the white house is banking on.
that the fight was over. that we weren t going to win. and i remember going into a conference meeting, and the spirit of fight just broke, instantly. overnight. and they all came to the conclusion that they had made their point and there was no other way to give in. i don t know if that scenario is likely to happen again. but that s maybe the kind of thing that kevin mccarthy is banking on. and do we get literally into two and three weeks from now, and going to the conference meeting and he says i told you i was going to stick it out, you are still badly outnumbered and they fold. maybe it s unlikely, but i think that s the dynamic that he s looking for. some type of coming to a realization moment where fundamentals don t really change, they just think that they made their point and give in. one of the most fascinating things to watch, as we look at this on screen here has been the conversations that have been happening over the course of the last 40 minutes and again before that bet