and the russians, they won t mind a bit. look, this is a civil war. and it s really sad ta people are dying. but it does not warrant the united states involvement in international intervention. we have been down this road before and it didn t work out real well. cooler heeds need to prevail here. joining me now on our panel is washington post e.j. dionne, michael eric dyson and the grio s joy reid. e.j., it seems to me that we have conflicting feelings when it comes to moral obligations. how is this one more important than the other unwithes that i mentioned? first of all, ed, it s great to have you back on weekdays. a lot of people are cheering. secondly, i m glad you went after that word surgical because no matter how you feel about syria, i just don t like the word surgical applied to war. it seems war is the opposite of surgical. i think the president has a