former president knew he d lost, that he knew he d actually lost the election but was trying to get votes he knew he was not entitled to, that could be a violation of this statute. there s no federal law that s an equivalent so this is an opportunity for prosecutors in georgia that they don t have in the justice department investigation. this special grand jury in georgia is not the final step in the process though, how long might it be before we know whether or not trump will face charges? right, this is what s called an investigatory grand jury meaning they don t investigate but would indict, it would be a different grand jury to indict. this grand jury is certified to act for a year, they don t have to act for a year but as always with the law, things don t go very quickly and this one isn t likely to move in the space of weeks. this will certainly be months at a minimum. we ll see what happens, all right, jeffrey tubin, thank you
all of those obvusly are the kinds of things that if you give someone have to be reported in both directions as income. it s sort of an obvious hard and fast rule. that seems to be the issue they were investigators were looking at. yes. that does seem to be something that investigators were looking at. tomorrow, we will see what the final charges are. it will be a big day. it s the first criminal charges stemming from a multi-year investigation into the former president and his company. what should we conclude about the status of this grand jury? i found this investigatory grand jury an institution i don t feel like i have a great understanding of. we know that they have been impanelled for this. do they keep going? with special grand juries, they sit for a longer term.
that s according to two people familiar with the development. one of whom said that trump related testimony in the secret proceeding has begun. it s not clear whether the grand jury will return any indictments. the develop suggests that vance believes he has evidence of a crime, if not by trump then by someone close to him or by his company. manhattan d.a. has been invest good faithing trump since 2018 and is scrutinizing whether his company misrepresented the value of his assets for tax or insurance purposes. that s also known as fraud. no president of the united states has ever been charged with that or any other crime. just the potential of that is a very big deal. last week we learned that cy vance team joined forces with investigators with the office of new york attorney general whose civil probe has become a criminal investigation. joining me now, two former
it s velveeta shells & cheese versus the other guys. clearly, velveeta melts creamier. i hope the breaking news that s changed the world. it s changed the news cycle. prosecutors convenes grand jury to hear evidence a and weigh potential charges. executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutor find crimes and find criminal charges. joining me is karen bass. i want to get your reaction to this news. no former president has ever
maybe he looks at 2024 differently. maybe he uses it to continue to foment anger and violence against established institutions against the legal institutions we have seen in many other cases. they will have to defend him where he pulls all the stops. we know a grand jury conveing against his business. what seems the most likely outcome is now he demands the party that he owns and control convene all of its resources toward protecting him from the potential legal harm that s facing him in new york and that includes ron desantis, every one