gone before the grand jury. a dam in ukraine is breached at a key point in the war with accusations flying about who did it and a retired fbi spy catcher, remember s the spy he caught, robert hanssen who sold secrets to moscow and died in prison yesterday. we begin with a previously unknown second grand jury in the documents case and word late today that former trump chief of staff mark meadows has, in fact, testified before a grand jury unclear which one. also unclear when he testified or which line of inquiry the special counsel is pursuing. the documents for january 6th or perhaps both and kaitlan collins is here. what have you learned? a lot of questions about this especially when it comes to the mark meadows investigation, of course, that s or the mark meadows testimony. we knew he was going to have to testify because they subpoenaed him, the trump team tried to fight it citing executive privilege. they lost that, so we knew it was going to happen. we just didn t k
john, good to see you. we go way back. it was a difficult investigation as you said, i was 25. i was an fbi ghost so catching spies following them, surveilling them, that s what i was used to but working fac face-to-face in fbi headquarters in the most unique case they had ever run in its history up till then was certainly daunting. hanssen was a very difficult person. he was a narcissist, had a huge ego, a very quick temper and he was quick to call me a moron when he didn t like me. i had to do the overt job of building cybersecurity at the same time i did the covert job of investigating hanssen and trying to find the information that was going to give us a slam dunk case to put him away forever. was he ever suspicious of you. he had to be suspicious. so hanssen had been sent to the state department to a liaison job and was supposed to end out his career and was supposed to retire in april of 2001. we only learned about him in