a major contributor to the interpol budget to reform the way in which interpol operates. and i ve been a strong advocate, after russia has been abusing interpol so often in my case, effectively asking russia to be unplugged from interpol because they re abusing it, not using it for law enforcement. that s an argument i ve made, i ll continue to make and mike and others will make as well. you can t have this nonaccountable organization being able to be used by dictators to chase their enemies. as a political weapon, it seems. bill browder, thanks very much for taking the time. thank you. coming up, the potential legal implications of michael cohen s new claim that the president knew about that trump meeting after all trump tower meeting, after all. our analysts are standing by. we re getting new information from the special counsel about who s ready to testify against trump s former campaign chairman, paul manafort. breaking news on that is just ahead. this is cnn breaking