72% of americans think the fight against isis is going badly. won t the legacy of this administration, which you are a part of, won t that legacy be that it underestimated the threat from isis? well, john, i think that we have to look at isis as the leading threat of an international terror network. it cannot be contained. it must be defeated. but it cannot be an american fight. and i think what the president has consistently said, which i agree with, is that we will support those who take the fight to isis. isis and foreign policy pushed to the forefront of saturday s democratic debate in iowa. nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in paris and joining us from d.c. is senator chris murphy of connecticut, a member of the foreign relations committee. senator, really appreciate you being with us tonight. you get both me tonight and richard engel in paris. richard?
administration, which is which you were a part of, won t that legacy be that it underestimated the threat from isis? well, john, i think that we have to look at isis as the leading threat of an international terror network. it cannot be contained, it must be defeated. jon: it cannot be contained, jackie, it must be defeated. well, yeah, we know that, but let s get some specifics. i don t know that anyone has specifics yet. i mean, we haven t heard any from the republican candidates either that are actually something that could be done. but, you know, it remains to be seen, because it s a world whether or not the world is scarier, it certainly feels scarier to a lot of people right now, and they re going to gravitate particularly right now to the candidate that sounds presidential and sounds like they can do something to keep them safe. jon: so, michael, you said that on the republican side there have been sort of, you know, they ve been talking about small things like describin
we have to look at isis as the leading threat of an international terror network. it cannot be contained. it must be defeated. that was hillary clinton on saturday night in the democratic candidate s debate saying isis cannot be contained. in contrast to what president obama said the morning of the paris attacks. the paris attacks are altering the american landscape here in the united states and shaking up the 2016 contest. the issue of terrorism is seen as a net plus, especially for the more hawkish candidates like trump and marco rubio. rubio slammed hillary clinton for not using the word islamic terrorism and called for more aggressive engagement in syria. secretary clinton did not want to use the words radical islam. your response? i don t understand it that. would be like saying we weren t
hamsters, guinea pigs. you name it. i m going to transform the way the world works. (proudly) i programmed that hat. and i can do casaba melons. i ll be helping turbines power cities. i put a turbine on a cat. (friends ooh and ahh) i can make hospitals run more efficiently. this isn t a competition! we have to look at isis as the leading threat of an international terror network. it cannot be contained. it must be defeated. that was hillary clinton on saturday night in the democratic candidate s debate saying isis cannot be contained. in contrast to what president obama said the morning of the paris attacks. the paris attacks are altering the american landscape here in the united states and shaking up the 2016 contest. the issue of terrorism is seen as a net plus, especially for
international terror network. it cannot be contained. it must be defeated. gop candidates are condemning president obama and slamming hillary clinton in the process. at a rally donald trump focused on gun control saying paris has the toughest gun laws in the world. if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry, it would have been a much, much different situation. then on meet the press jeb bush went after president obama. like hillary clinton he used president obama s containment remark to frame his answer. this is not something you can contain. each day that isis exists it gains new energy and more recruits around the world. president obama is hearing it from past opponents, senator john mccain, who lost the election to obama in 2008 says the president s failed policies and lack of leadership led to the growth of isis. and president obama s 2012 opponent mitt romney wrote a