not only exists, not like a concert card, it s only something that has been deployed. it is just been developed in a lab. it actually has been used already by repressive governments around the world to target exactly who you think they would target with a tool like that. this thing is marketed supposedly as a law enforcement tool, anti-terrorism tool. but government officials have used it around the world against their personal enemies, their ex lives, their political rivals. of course, they ve used against opposition figures and journalists, human rights activists, civil rights activists, advocates for minority groups. whoever it is that is that countries thrown inside, whoever it is that is that countries insisted more begin. whoever is making change and leading movements, whoever is the book is called pegasus, it is written by two journalists. lebron and s dream. they expose the existence of this technology and it s used by reproductive governments around the world. the big break in
whoever it is that s that country s thorn in the side, whoever it is that is that country s insistent moral beacon, whoever is making change and leading movements, whoever is angering repressive government officials, that s who s been targeted with this technology. there s a book that s coming out tomorrow, which means technically at midnight tonight and it s called pegasus written by two journalists. they expose the existence of this technology and its use by repressive governments around the world. the big break in them exposing it came when they got a list of 50,000 phones that had been selected for targeting with this pernicious software. the software is called pegasus. with that list of 50,000 numbers in hand, these journalists launched an international reporting project to discover what this software was, where it came from, and who it was being used against. and as i said, the book, which is called pegasus, it comes out at midnight tonight. i wrote the introduction to the bo
this technology and its use by repressive governments around the world. the big break in them exposing it came when they got a list of 50,000 phones that had been selected for targeting with this pernicious software. the software is called pegasus. with that list of 50,000 numbers in hand, these journalists launched an international reporting project to discover what this software was, where it came from, and who it was being used against. and as i said, the book, which is called pegasus, it comes out at midnight tonight. i wrote the introduction to the book. here s a little piece of it from the audio bok. . the insidious power of a pegasus infection was that it was completely invisible to the victim. you d have no way to know the baddies were reading your texts and emails and listening in on your calls and even your in-person meetings until they used their ability to track your
i just did the introduction because i think the story is incredible. and the story has developed in the united states in really interesting ways. once this international reporting project exposed this kind of surveillance was happening, the u.s. government did an unexpectedly stand up and strong thing. they black listed the company that makes pegasus and banned the use of pegasus software in the united states. that didn t stop it around the world. this is still a live issue. it s still a live issue in the united states. just last week the u.s. supreme court let the company whatsapp go ahead and sue the company that makes pegasus. whatsapp gets to sue pegasus sue the company that makes pegasus for using their software to break into people s phones and spy on people s encrypted messages on whatsapp, so that intratech civil lawsuit will go ahead and that could be a big deal. this is a live issue. this is hotly contested territory. but it s sort of from the news
0 and enslaved africans, so that the power of both groups would be diminished, because if they came together, they could change everything, and he was trying to change everything by bringing them together, along with impoverished native americans, asian americans, latino americans, obviously our country became much more of rainbow. but at the heart of, it was an appeal to poor whites and poor blacks, to come together. and that s the unfinished work. ben, it s always a privilege to see you, thank you my friend for being with us on this important night. we appreciate that. that is all in on this monday night, chris saves is gonna be back tomorrow, at eight eastern, and then again at ten eastern hosting a special national day of racial healing town hall, along with my colleagues joy reid and sean mainly, they will be live in new orleans at 10 pm eastern on msnbc, and streaming on good evening, ali, it s good to see you my friend. thank you very much. much appreciated. thanks to you at h