has started, a month ago, and i asked frank gardiner, the bbc security correspondent how it was going. t security correspondent how it was anoin. .. security correspondent how it was anoin. ,. , ., going. i think there were some unrealistic going. i think there were some unrealistic expectations - going. i think there were some unrealistic expectations of i unrealistic expectations of ukrainians, because so much of when you get into the long is a western hardware and training, financial help, the last six months prior to when the offensive began injune, all the time of ukrainians were getting trained up in the west and building up these armoured brigades, the russians use that time to dig in and really create a effective, almost impregnable defensive lines. their not stupid, they thought the obvious place they will want to drive the main thrust will be the parisian, towards the sea of as of, to split the occupied area and two, so they put in tank tracks, ditches, concrete dragon stee
in russia s defences. russia has three successive layers of defence of trenches and tank traps and minefields. interlocking arcs of fire, waiting to hit ukraine s new challenger tanks that are going to be trying to drive south. those defences are still in place. a fair degree of bewilderment among the russian forces probably thinking what a net is going on back home? some will be wondering is this really what i want to lay my life down for when the wagner group we looked up to, they looked up to and respected seemed to have mutinied against the russian state and been called traitors. if putin is smart, he will be able to move on quickly from this and quite possibly send wagner back into the battlefield. we wait to see any sort of clue as to