his leaders, you know, 20 feet away down a long table. putin seeming more and more isolated. let s go there to the kremlin. they said as we heard from raf sanchez a low-level official to these peace talks with the ukranians. what s your expectation as to what might happen there on the border between belarus and ukraine? well, i have very low expectations. i mean, as you say, the delegation that putin has sent is kind of this cast of characters. the former foreign minister under boris yet insay they are non-entities but the ukranians have sent actual diplomats and officials includes, by the way, their did i fence minister who has been intergrool holding the city of kyiv and he s the one you ve seen frofed huddled with president zelenskyy. look, this is the classic kind of putinist move, you know, pretend to sue for peace and pretend while all the time escalating.