at the end of the night or whatever it is rather than sitting down and talking it out or whatever. i am glad you said that about heritage and background because one of the things dr. bryant talked about is this is not just about marginalized communities. you can sit down with a patient and say have you ever had substance abuse? have you ever faced discrimination? you put that in the intake. if they feel they have experienced discrimination or something that is an experience that a clinician has to take in as they discuss it. i am so excited about this study and something that i tried to integrate as an organizer. you often see people who experience pain have a lot of solutions but often aren t engaged and that disregard for their lived experience creates more trauma.
killings, killings that run on a loop on your smartphone. the only thing i can tell is he couldn t breathe. reporter: the national debates about race and a pandemic that revealed inequality in our health, education, and economy like a low tide. but there is a difference between the shock of these events and the long term effects of trauma on whole communities. what does that mean? what do people who know about trauma think about the way it is being kicked around in pop culture? audi is back with me also joined by cnn political commentator and mike shield is back as well. audie it is fascinating to think about this. because on the one hand the idea of talking about trauma still feels very fresh in the overall modern history of america. we seem to still be a, put under the rug sort of maybe collective generation of people. on the other hand, what we see,
really important. i think when you were talking i was thinking about the politics of people acknowledging the idea of intergenerational trauma and i bet there are many who sort of pooh pooh the idea. we think about how the sort of woke culture has been received, the idea of addressing emotional well being and mental health in different ways, not always something taken to heart or acknowledged in different political worlds. what is your take on it, thinking how there is this cross section, speaking earlier about compartmentalizing what ought to be political or personal or criminal does this strike you as an out of sorts notion? i think we need to find more and more avenues for people to feel comfortable talking about mental health. if their experience, whatever it is, gets them to talk i m for it regardless. everyone s experience is different. that is the whole point of talking about mental health. we all have a different
saying that. that is going to make his job difficult and i think the fact they haven t laid out very specific legislative priorities is something to consider and it will be interesting to see how democrats hold their coalition together when there is such a tiny minority. they can actually do a little damage and can affect things even though they are not in power because the majority the republicans have is so slim. we will be watching for the opportunity to see how this plays out. if you re the spoiler i want the glass half full in congress. we ll play it that way. it will be important. congresswoman, my best of luck to you. thank you so much. from a deadly pandemic to mass shootings to nationwide protests it s been a very traumatic few years to say the least. for many, while trauma can go back not just months or days and weeks but decades or even
psychology. what is interesting is that psychology has not really embraced this idea there could be what is called ancestral trauma, that a trauma could somehow collectively affect a marginalized community, black, native american, japanese internment victims, etcetera. but after 2020 this became more of a topic and of more interest. now their president-elect this woman dr. bryant is a specialist in this at pepperdine university and she runs a lab called the culture and research lab. and they basically figure out how can we better treat people in general but how can we acknowledge the whole person in our treatment? it is not a slam dunk. there are some people who say, this is bringing politics into the room, creating a different dynamic between a predominantly white profession and maybe people of color who might come in for support. how do we reckon with this? the word acknowledgment was