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rights or the tariff. they said slavery is but even lincoln wasn t convinced that slaves deserved to have full rights. much of his life he didn t. he shared many of the prejudices which were very common north and south in that society, but i think the key to lincoln, and you know, obama is only in the second year of office. after two years, lincoln was not the great emancipator either. and he grew enormously in office and, you know, obama perhaps will do that also. but at the end of his life, he understood that black people of part of american society and they re going to have to enjoy the rights of free citizens. earlier on he didn t. and i think it s that process of growth that is critical. took longer for people to think that way about women, interest league. took 50 years longer for women to get the right to vote, as you well know. at least two of these trends, maybe conflicting, maybe not. it is that eflufgs lincoln that you describe. he drew rigid lines and said sheer
after two years, lincoln was not the great emancipator either. and he grew enormously in office and, you know, obama perhaps will do that also. but at the end of his life, he understood that black people of part of american society and they re going to have to enjoy the rights of free citizens. earlier on he didn t. and i think it s that process of growth that is critical. took longer for people to think that way about women, interest league. took 50 years longer for women to get the right to vote, as you well know. at least two of these trends, maybe conflicting, maybe not. it is that evolution of lincoln that you describe. he drew rigid lines and said sheer the line in the sand. president obama, maybe he s evolved. he s not drawn any of those rigid lines that permit us to understand him better and permit people to support him. does that have to change for that to come out? i would like to see a change. i m not saying he should become a total ideologue and refuse to compromise