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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:17:00

they were convicted of havin to sketchy accountin practices. just to be clear, we re talking about the intent t mess around with this is enough well, you need the intent t defraud, and then you need a intent to commit a crime or ai in a concealed crime you don t actually have to commit a crime you just have the have the intent to commit the crime i guess, and this is been noted in a lot of outlets today, part of that fraud was payin more taxes than were reall technically do is that right? just because this, in theory if we bring that graphic bac up, this was michael cohen thi was them grossing up, as the term if michael cohen claimed it on his taxes remember, he went to jail, and part of it was for failure t pay income tax, we don t have lot of details on the failur to pay income tax. we just don t know what michae cohen did at the other end potentially, yeah, there

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:43:15

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:43:15
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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:43:00

district attorney to prove i ll answer it very, very simply does he absolutely have an knowledge whatsoever about the facts in this case this is a lawyer who knows nothing, and now is pining about our difficulty, and at least michael cohen s case knowing about intent t defraud. but let s start with writing checks rudy giuliani said 35,000 at all or month checks, wer reimbursements that the crim that michael cohen went to jai for. is there a problem here fo intent and that s a public fact i know private facts, but in the room with prosecutor, this lawyer, mr. trusty, has no clue so, he s like everyone els i ve been listening to, and no just somebody who s working fo trump, but other talking heads on other news channels, ar talking with that knowledge. and i don t blame them, bu they should not be speculating

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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 13:20:00

and here is how donald trump fit into that. he is the person directing others to engage in criminal conduct. also allows them, they don t have to send out the motive, but here would be a way fo them to set forth who is the one who is getting the benefit from all of this and that was donald trump to win the election it also allows them to set forth max where they can g towards proving the intent t defraud. and if it s a felony, you also need to show intent to further or conceal another crime so setting this fourth as conspiracy allows them to se the stage and really do that provide more information also expect that there s gonna be substantive counts. so you could charge each falsified business record as its own count. so you have the checks fro donald trump to michael cohen. those could be each check coul be its own account you also have the correspondin entries in the trump organization business records. where they re listed as lega

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