moving on to a story we picked up on yesterday. of course you ve seen it in the news cycle. growing i would suggest over the last couple weeks. become socially acceptable. carley: a big shift earlier this week. will: talking about the origins of the covid-19 virus. did it come from a lab. more than a year to this point, you ve been told, no, no, that s silly. in fact that is racist. better yet, that is a conspiracy theory. you heard stuff like this for the better part of a year. this question about the wuhan lab, we know that it has been debunked. that this virus was man-made or modified or anything like that. donald trump is still pushing the debunked bunk em despite his own intelligence community findings it is not true. mystery surrounds the high security lab of wuhan institute of virology that handles it the world s most dangerous path though owns, making it target of conspiracy theories of about the origin of virus. trump officials talk about the lab, there is no evidence
his mouth. why talk about the ukraine theory? we both know it s bunk and now you re attached to it. well, two points number one, if you ll look at the articles i talked about, you ll see that there is a lot of evidence that ukraine did try to meddle in the election in 2016. and i think it was very common knowledge, i know it was, that president poroshenko then was actively working against president trump. number two, and i believe that, chris i think it s common knowledge he didn t like trump. not that he was working against him. you want to weigh it against the mueller findings, the intelligence community findings and the investigative findings that have been briefed to you in the senate. all of that you re saying should be equally balanced with two
election in 2016. and i think it was very common knowledge, i know it was, that president poroshenko then was actively working against president trump. number two, and i believe that, chris i think it s common knowledge he didn t like trump. not that he was working against him. you want to weigh it against the mueller findings, the intelligence community findings and the investigative findings that have been briefed to you in the senate. all of that you re saying should be equally balanced with two articles. no, i m not. i m not saying that. i m saying the allegations that has been made against me and against senator wicker, who was on the sunday shows, too, there s absolutely no evidence that ukraine tried to meddle in the election and that s just not true.
does vladimir putin one week after the meeting think that president trump gave up anything to him? well, i m sure he does. again, the mere fact he met with him on a coequal basis on an international stage. and from what was said and the body language and everything else, i think clearly putin came off as the as the top dog. and, again, the president overnight writing that the russia investigation is, in his words, a big hoax. is that giving something up to vladimir putin? well, of course, it is. and, of course, this is one area where the president has been entirely consistent. ever since he was briefed on the intelligence community findings in january of 2017 about the russian meddling and the extent of it. and he has great problems accepting that, because it cast doubt on the legitimacy of his election. and he continues, whether intentionally or not, to
russian meddling was real, the intelligence community findings are authentic and the president needs to support them. lindsey graham was saying this morning on meet the press that he has to come out and lead an effort to stop the meddling in the 2018 elections and the president is not playing ball on this issue. not only is it about whether russia actually interfered in the election, but he speaks a mistruth when he says in his tweet that he wasn t warned at all about russia s interference because as ryan just reported, he was warned. in fact, we know that. do you think that this fact-based reporting, the fact checking the media is doing is the main reason the president continues to attack the media? that is my educated guess. there has been a weekend full of criticism of the president for his performance in helsinki.