correspondent ken dilanian and also nbc legal analyst. ryan, what do we know at this moment? reporter: we know the jury will be delivering this verdict at any moment now. it s a partial verdict. we are expecting any second to find out what those initial conclusions were. we know after they deliver this verdict, whatever counts were outstanding, the judge is going order them to deliberate those counts. right now, we re unsure what counts they were able to reach a conclusion on, any one of the counts. and which ones they re still split on. they need to continue to deliberate and see if any of the holdouts on either side there were in the minority of the jurors will be able to ultimately move away from or be convinced of. being that they have been deliberating for about a week now, although there have been some half days mixed in there, i think when they go back, it will be a bit of a challenge. and that s why the judge at the beginning of this instructed them not to come in w
have not yet been able to unanimously resolve, the judge will simply send them back and say, please continue your deliberations. but i agree with ken, this was the grandaddy of all insurrection trials thus far, and they were just convicted on the lead count, seditious conspiracy, which carrying 20 years in prison. all the other counts i believe i heard they were also convicted of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, that s five years. all of the rest carry a less amount of penalty that be the lead one. i was in the courtroom watching the closing arguments, and i heard some of the defense attorneys expressly blame donald trump for what the proud boys did on january 6th. infamously, we ve all heard on an endless loop, he told them to stand back and stand by, and