disavowing and denying this strategy. disavowing and denying his own work on that. saying that s crazy, it was totally on viable, that wasn t even a real thing. don t describe that to me. i was wrong to say that as some kind of good sign, that it leads the insurrection guys felt bad. and knew it was wrong. he apparently just decided he didn t have the right guy in as vice president, or the whole plan would have worked. should also tell you just so you know, we did back flips, today, trying to contact mr. eastman himself for comment. we tried six different phone numbers we found for, him but no answer any of them. we left multiple voice messages, we did not have any returns. we texted him, some of the phone numbers we had for, him no luck there either. we found people connected to him, and spoke to a couple of people connected to him, one of them told us that they would pass on our message to him. somebody else connected to him actually did give us another