but people didn t enforce it. people were sloppy, and a judge made a very lenient sentence. it was personal error, institutional error. that s why you saw this tragedy. kimberly: should have been charged with a felony instead of a misdemeanor. juan: i think the president was asked specifically a question, what you are saying, he was asked, would you back extreme vetting for anyone who wants to get a gun in the united states. he then ran away from the question. what you are saying is we need to extremely vet these people to make sure mistakes aren t made out to make sure people who are mentally incapacitated. jesse: we have extreme vetting but the vetters failed. juan: the big argument is about universal background checks. we don t have close to extreme vetting. president obama said we need a right to life argument here which is to say should be able to walk the streets and feel safe in your church without the thought that there are so many