counsel robert mueller revealing that in the first days of the trump presidency don mcgahn researched federal law dealing both with lying to federal investigators and with violations of the logan act, a centuries old federal law. according to three people with direct knowledge of the confidential government documents. the records show that don mcgahn clearly raised issues as to whether flynn possibly violated federal law related to making false statements and also whether he violated the logan act and that mcgahn voiced these concerns to trump. joining us now, david frum and barbara mcquade. and, barbara, first to you on this final point made tonight in