clinton is that it seems to be all politics all the time, from what we know about this book chapter, it s pure political spin and she s more focused on blaming the so-called vast right wing conspiracy than on the terrorists. right. okay, well goldie, steve, perry, back with us and jonathan allen joins us, co-author of the new york times best seller, hrc. appropriate to this conversation. so i m going to start with you, jonathan. playing politics here? really? she s playing politics. we just heard these two guys with the same talking points. yeah. the idea that senator cruz is above politics in this is a little marred to take. obviously he s being just as political as everybody else in the republican party is in terms of trying to make this an issue for her in 2016. i do think that there are some legitimate questions about american foreign policy and the extent to which we do expeditionary sploemcy and whether the state department was heeding warningings from libya
for the election and how things were going at that time but nonetheless i think that susan rice as you look at the time line did exactry what she should have done and came forward with comments and at that time that video had brewed up a terrible crisis in cairo and it was a crisis that could have spread to many other places. and so i think she was on target. at the same time you had groups inside the video, someone in jailed and prison by gadhafi and he like many others were subjected to harassment torture and long-term imprisonment for their views and these folks were out there simmering. he was the one identified and at least given credit for among many if not definitively pinned the killing of general unis the overall commander of the rebel forces and former interior minister inside libya.
qaeda s strength in north libya. the question being that he is in u.s. custody facing trial in new york. what is the likelihood that at this point and this juncture he would give up any of that critical information? it s not clear that he will. certainly he has left a trail in the past of information that is going to be useful, one would expect for prosecutors to prosecute him for that. he lived in britain for a short time. there was a raid on the property that he lived in in england, and a document several hundred pages known as the manchester manual was discovered, and whether or not he will offer up if he has that active and current
alert the target, in this case, libby. that he will alter his patterns. so what is also support, you don t want the alert one with word coming out in somalia of an effort taking place or to precede it with something taking place in libya. those would be aberrant behaviors. the news would get out very quickly. you want to keep those as closely coordinated as you can. i would suggest this speaks highly of our d.o.d. you have the african command that provides the outer ring in libya and you have the central command with the raid in somalia and certainly with the special operations forces working within both of those. this is highly, highly coordinated, exceptionally well tranld folks can pull this off. okay. gary, let s talk about this. you re a former cia officer. you heard what general marks said. do you think that is unusual that the military and not cia operatives perhaps were send in to get the suspects?
custody. in an exclusive interview with his wife, she told cnn that she saw the men snatch her husband were libyan. she said there were other men involved but she couldn t confirm if they were americans. libya s government publicly has deemed his camden you are a kidnapping. u.s. special forces conducted a special operation 3,000 miles away in somalia. the mission didn t go as planned. u.s. forces were forced to retreat. one suspect was killed. his identity, still unknown. these raids were launched back to back in countries that of become havens for terrorists. joining me, major general james marks, and cia officer gary burnson on the phone from jacksonville, florida. gentlemen, you know, we have our most elite forces, s.e.a.l. team 6 go into somalia. camden you are the leader of al