what is going on inside bagram and the other places that are targeted by insurgents, the tall bam or just disgruntled afghan soldiers. the amazing thing is the increase in what they have called the insider or green on blue attacks. we now have 40 dead americans this year. shepard: for what? what? what is the goal now? the goal is to get out by 2014? there is no goal, no win. people will die while we wait to get out. how much sense does it make? guest: we are continuing to kill afghan leaders. but this has been too much for two nato members, new zealand announced this week they are pulling, or, they are accelerating the withdrawal of 140 soldiers. shepard: there is pressure for us, too. guest: there is but the president in his press conference said yesterday this
not so far-fetched. guest: we found him twice beyond the time we were tracking him and it is a big moving machine with a lot of parts but that is the solution, and the network is not rocket scientist they have been penetrated and they have in followers but the military is doing their thing and we have to leave it to them. shepard: and they are trying to kidnap and capture as often as possible. guest: that is a standard method and it is very sociable because it is common to swap commanders or troops for other people to get family members back, so, it is not working in this case because these are high level prisoners inside bagram. shepard: and some entrepreneurs saw new opportunities and a determined group is finding success in this lousy economy.