backlash to him? i don t know yet. i don t know yet. i don t think it s a mistake that donald trump began his political life as a birther. i don t think that s a mistake. i don t think the political, you know, sort of rhetoric, the way it exploded into anti-muslim, anti-woman, anti-you know, i don t think that s incidental. it s just very, very hard to believe that. you know, and so i think to some extent you do have to ascribe the fact he s actually presid t president, i guess the way to answer this is could i imagine a donald trump without a barack obama as president? no, i cannot. no i, cannot. let s make that real simple. that s the way i feel. it is very hard to imagine history coming along and producing this man as president except for the end of this era. yeah, yeah. so do you think, you know, when you re sort of thinking about barack obama s presidency, as a whole, right, how much do you view that legacy now contingent on what happens in
it exploded into anti-muslim, anti-woman, anti-you know, i don t think that s incidental. it s just very, very hard to believe that. you know, and so i think to some extent you do have to ascribe the fact he s actually president, i guess the way to answer this is could i imagine a donald trump without a barack obama as president? no, i cannot. no i, cannot. let s make that real simple. that s the way i feel. it is very hard to imagine history coming along and producing this man as president except for the end of this era. yeah, yeah. so do you think, you know, when you re sort of thinking about barack obama s presidency, as a whole, right, how much do you view that legacy now contingent on what happens in the next four years? contingent at all. obviously what the policy is, right? does the aca get repealed? obviously, some of that is, but like with any other president, so, iflincoln, a bett example actually is grant, who does this great job during reconstruction and for the
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