early with us on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. this isn t a question of vindication. it is not a question, as i stated before, about revenge this is a my position is that, at the end of the day, donald trump needs to be held accountable for his dirty deeds if, in fact, that s the way that the facts play out that was donald trump s former fixer after wrapping up his testimony to a manhattan grand jury by the way, former fixer who went to jail, actually got convicted and went to jail for being part of this scheme that donald trump is now being investigated for. michael cohen spent two days on the stand answering questions about the hush money given to stormy daniels, the porn star. now, we re learning that she is talking to prosecutors also ahead, we ll dig into the new reporting out of georgia on another phone call the former president made to an election official there in the aftermath of the 2020 election. it s like the end of the hunt
yet, pence s comments have been shrugged off by the press and the public republican leaders have no intention of speaking the truth or decency to their base, and until someone in the party of lincoln is able to muster even the tiniest fraction of lincoln s courage, we will indulge our complacency about the republicans at our peril for the most part, tom, they just keep it to themselves when they say, again, off camera, that donald trump is a threat to america, that donald trump is a threat to democracy, that donald trump destroys everything he touches, and that they worry about it for the four years when he is president of the united states. then they go out in front of cameras and talk about how great the guy is. yet, here s mike pence saying something thatea earth-shattering in the piece, i did a thought experiment imagine if hubert humphrey after the riots in chicago in 68 said, lincoln johnson sent
those people, and i was in danger hundreds of innocent chicagoans were in danger history will hold lincoln johnson accountable. it would have changed our politics, would have been earth shaking, the pillars of our republic would have trembled this vice president goes out an says, donald trump endangered my life and the life of everybody on capitol hill. nationally, we go, well, it s donald trump what are you going to do wow. that s part of the republican it s not just the republicans hiding in the tall grass it s all of us it is a national underreaction to a vice president telling us that the president of the united states is a dangerous autocrat who put everybody s lives in jeopardy our reaction to that has been, you know, this kind of national shrug. i think that s really dangerous. molly, what do we think these january 6th comments, as striking as they were, and they