was approving of the situation there what do you think of that. i have not seen rudy giuliani say russia did meddle ididn tmeddle in this el. it s clear that russia has meddle you had in our election and will continue to meddle in our election as will other countries. the key point here is that about ukraine. there was no question that the democrats had paid operatives that were getting information out of ukraine. you only have to look at paul manafort. paul manafort was dirtied up by what was likely disinformation. now, look, he ended up doing other things wrong, but that initialing dirt that came from ukraine. we also know that the dossier sources, some of those sources were in ukraine. so, there is no question i m not saying that the ukrainian government had some not like putin was doing, but, look, they clearly sided on behalf of the clinton campaign and they helped to dirty up trump. you had the ambassador of